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Monday, 23 August 2004
ROCK HARBOR CHURCH IS A CULT!
Mood:  blue
Dear Rock Harbor,

Matthew 11:28 - "Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest."

Such is the Kingdom of God. But unfortunately the same is no longer true of RockHarbor, Costa Mesa. I have been attending RockHarbor since May 2000, but because one person, Shawn Scott the facilities manager, is prejudiced towards me, they are now refusing to admit me to the services. I have done everything possible to submit to the authority Jesus Christ has placed in the elders, but they will not budge. Does this sound like the church that Jesus Christ established? Obviously not! RockHarbor, by its actions, has set itself above God and apart from the Church of Jesus Christ, and is now making its own rules and decisions contrary to the Word of God and the teachings of Jesus Christ. It is for this reason I am informing the congregation at large of the implications.

GOD'S PURPOSE REVEALED:
The purpose of this message is to warn RockHarbor of impending danger ahead and not to threaten, alarm or harm anyone, but to reveal God's heart and His love for His people that they may find safety and rest under His wing, and be spared the tribulation that is to come.

DETAILS LEADING UP TO THE MESSAGE:
Over four years ago, God revealed an evil presence of doubt and prejudice lurking in the church I was attending (Anaheim Vineyard) in the person of Shelby Ahrling. Remember, however:

Ephesians 6:12 - "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places]."

REVELATIONS:
God gave me a very hard word to deliver to Shelby. He was admonishing her that

Matthew 15:8 - "This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with [their] lips; but their heart is far from me."

God is second place in her life after the cares of this world. Now I do not doubt the sincerity of Shelby's belief in Jesus Christ, but by her actions she denies Him daily. She was offended by the message as anyone would be, but God was proven correct when Shelby went directly to the pastors of the church to complain. The pastors were dumbfounded. God says,

Matthew 18:15 - "Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother."

Never once did she approach me about my offense. Scripture proves that she does not follow the ways of God. Her reproach goes much deeper than that. Because she could not obtain any results from the pastors, she sought to have me arrested as a stalker. The police denied her request as there was no evidence of any wrongdoing on my behalf. So rather than remain a thorn in her side at the Vineyard, I was released by my pastor to attend another church.

I began attending Rock Harbor Church in another town 20 miles away (Costa Mesa) where she does not live or work. Everything was back to normal for about 3 years and I had no contact with her. However she heard through the grapevine where I was and came to Rock Harbor. She sought to have me arrested again, but again the police said there was nothing they could charge me with, unless going to church is a crime! They questioned her credibility as she was 20 miles from her home; she did not work in Costa Mesa; and she doesn't even attend RockHarbor! She still persisted in hounding me and dragging me into court by further obtaining a warrant from a judge she knew. She is well-to-do and she oppresses the poor (another one of her godly attributes).

James 2:6 - "But you have dishonored the poor man. Is it not the rich who oppress you and personally drag you into court?"

This clearly shows what side of the fence she is on, and it is not for Jesus Christ. God is trying to show her that she does not have the capacity to forgive, but she denies it. Shelby believes she is completely forgiven, even though she is not. God says,

Matthew 6:14 - 15: "For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you; But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."

Then God began to reveal to me how Shelby claimed to be a Christian, yet denied His word daily by her actions. She was definitely a believer, but she did not submit nor follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. Of this Jesus said,

1 John 2:4 - "The one who says, "I have come to know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him."

Satan is the Father of all lies. Which meant she was really a follower (albeit unknowingly) of Satan! So by her actions she was spreading seeds of doubt in the church which has severely crippled the Anaheim Vineyard that was until recently was a world leader in church renewal. The seeds of doubt spread quickly and became weeds of prejudice that choked the life out of the church. First came the untimely death of the Senior Pastor John Wimber. Then 7 world renown worship leaders left the church for other venues. Then another untimely death of the Pastor of Benevolence, Monte Whitaker followed. Well over half of the congregation has left the church. Our sworn enemy knows if he can remove the leadership, he can control the church. And that is what he has done.

WARNING: DANGER AHEAD FOR ROCK HARBOR!
Shelby had me arrested at Easter services at RockHarbor. While I was preoccupied with legal affairs, the spirit within Shelby struck the Senior Pastor and founder Keith Page to have him removed from RockHarbor. This is decidely un-Christ like. Which family of God expels a repentant sinner? Rock Harbor started down a sliding path to hades. Next Shelby will be after RockHarbor's worship leader, Todd Proctor. Together these attacks will cripple RockHarbor immeasurably.

Unfortunately Shawn Scott has already taken on Shelby's mantel of doubt and refuses to admit me to the church (like someone pronounced him God or something?). So after his second admonition, I took the matter to the elders, specifically Erik Chandler who promised a quick response. THREE WEEKS LATER, I emailed Erik again, and asked him what the problem was. He replied that they would have an answer for me by the middle of the next week. THREE WEEKS LATER, I inquired again if I could attend church. But this time, he did not have the common courtesy to reply. It is painfully obvious that the seeds of doubt have sprung into deadly weeds of prejudice and have now taken hold of the church leadership. They have no intention of replying to my inquiries as any response they are contemplating would not be of God nor follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. If the church membership ever found out that the church decides who can or cannot attend services and seek salvation, that would be the end of RockHarbor; because that is in total disagreement with the teachings of Jesus Christ, and is blasphemy!

Would someone please read the story of the prodigal son to your church leaders, as they seem to have conveniently forgotten it. They do not know what the proper response should be even though Jesus Christ has placed it in His Word for all to see, to learn and to obey. RockHarbor is not exempt.

SATAN'S WALL
Satan is building a wall between God and the Church, not only to keep the real Christians out (not just believers, but followers also); but more so to trap those poor blind souls inside.

GOD'S POSITION
What is God's positon in all this?

2 Timothy 4:2 -4: "Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away [their] ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables."

Furthermore,
Romans 16:17 - "Now I urge you, brethren, keep your eye on those who cause dissensions and hindrances contrary to the teaching which you learned, and turn away from them."

CONCLUSION
This is only ONE of a handful of warnings that God has ever given to me, and because of the seriousness and grave circumstances that are unfolding now, I am revealing His heart for His people at RockHarbor. You may choose to believe or disbelieve. God will still honor the free will He gave to you. But prayerfully consider all the options and alternatives before making any rash decisions. Whom will you serve? The choice is still yours!

READ: REVELATION, Chapters 2 and 3.

Go In God's Grace,
David Hunter

Posted by rockharbor0 at 12:24 PM PDT
Updated: Thursday, 26 August 2004 5:24 PM PDT
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Monday, 23 August 2004 - 12:26 PM PDT

Name: rockharbor0

As an example of the deceit and lies Rock Harbor is operating under, this was my response to Erik's outright lies to the church:

"IF YOU RECEIVED THE FOLLOWING LETTER FROM ERIK, PLEASE NOTE THAT YOU HAVE BEEN LIED TO!!! AT NO TIME HAS HE EVER SPOKEN TO ME ABOUT THIS SITUATION.

DAVID"

Rock Harbor
Hi all,

I just wanted to write a quick note to you to say thanks for the way you handled receiving the e-mail from David Hunter a couple of weeks ago.

Know that we are aware of David and have spent a reasonable amount of time with him to resolve his tension with Rock Harbor. I do apologize for you having to read his rhetoric of a personal nature. Thanks for making us aware of this e-mail.

We are in discussions with him to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Our staff and board are aware of his activities and will endeavor to bring this matter to a timely conclusion.

If in the future he chooses to use this route again please forward any and all e-mail to echandler@rockharbor.org . Please do not respond to them.

If you have any questions please feel free to ask. I will be glad to help in any way I can .

Blessings
Erik

Monday, 23 August 2004 - 12:27 PM PDT

Name: rancelot

Having attended Rock Harbor, I concur that there is something terribly wrong there. And the evidence is not all that hard to discern either.

Rock Harbor in Costa Mesa is a daughter church of Mariners Church in Irvine CA. Rock Harbor is situated in a predominantly Hispanic neighborhood. Yet hardly any Hispanics attend the church which primarily consists of disgruntled white twenty-somethings. The reason for this is that the leadership is looking for 'fresh meat'. They are seeking to attract as many young females naive enough to fall for their sexual advances. The former pastor Keith Page was caught in this loop and was ousted, but the current leadership has not changed one bit.

In fact the new pastor Mike Erre, although a mesmerizing preacher, has something earily wrong about him. Perhaps it is because he was ordained by the effeminate (and quite possibly closet gay) pastor Kenton Beshore of Mariners. Kenton attracts effeminate leaders to his ministry and skirts the issue when gay rights comes up. Needless to say, Mike Erre is probably enjoying his ride on the backs of young naive believers. Why does this church have only 80-90% under 40 adherents? That is so unlike the family of God! Visitors over 40 are encouraged to leave (ie. made unwelcome) if they occupy a seat that could be filled by a young sexually active female.

God has the final word:

REVELATION 18:4 - And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

Saturday, 16 October 2004 - 5:13 PM PDT

Name: Metro-Boy



Who's calling who effeminate, checkout this PINK back ground.

Metro-Boy

Monday, 25 October 2004 - 9:47 AM PDT

Name: ob1

A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit.
Matthew 7:18
Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.
2 Corinthians 11:14

If you begin to suspect a key person involved with a person or group is telling less than the truth, or even outright lying, it could be a CULT. Then if they lie to others and claim YOU are the one who lied or misled, its a cult for sure. Any time someone 'corrects' the truth, be suspicious. If you begin to feel intimidated or under pressure to think their way - BEWARE. Do they TALK about LOVE but not act very loving toward other Christians? Do they seem to be cleverly conning people for power or profit? Cons are very good at fooling people, and seldom caught. It is up to YOU to discern through prayer and scriptures. Are their words and lifestyle matching up with God's word, or does there seem to be some deviation? Sometimes - usually - its hard to discern. PRAY for WISDOM and discernment!

Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
Romans 1:32

In the last days difficult times will come, for men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, revilers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, without natural affection (homosexual), trucebreakers, false accusers, fierce, despisers of those that are good, haters of good, treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, holding to a form of godliness, although they have denied its power; Avoid such men as these.
2 Timothy 3:1-5

Tuesday, 22 November 2005 - 8:31 PM PST


Rock harbor saved my life. If i had not of gone there I would have never known God's love. There is nothing going on at rock harbor other than God's work.

Friday, 5 May 2006 - 3:09 AM PDT


this is quite entertaining.

Friday, 22 June 2007 - 2:24 PM PDT

Name: "annoyed"

you are all freaks. Ok, accept those who are entertained with it. I have not attended Rock harbor, but am concidering it and thus stumbled on this thread.

People, listen carefully. 

If the creator or this church hate mail was at all a good christian, he would have simply gone elswhere where he felt his help was more appriciated. Instead, he has sinned in this thread by not only condeming a house of God, but by trying to instil hate in others.

Yes, I am chalanging your faith, yes, I am chalanging your morrals, and yes, I am asking you to please grow up. 

Friday, 22 June 2007 - 2:24 PM PDT

Name: "annoyed"

you are all freaks. Ok, accept those who are entertained with it. I have not attended Rock harbor, but am concidering it and thus stumbled on this thread.

People, listen carefully. 

If the creator or this church hate mail was at all a good christian, he would have simply gone elswhere where he felt his help was more appriciated. Instead, he has sinned in this thread by not only condeming a house of God, but by trying to instil hate in others.

Yes, I am chalanging your faith, yes, I am chalanging your morrals, and yes, I am asking you to please grow up. 

Wednesday, 8 August 2007 - 1:51 PM PDT

Name: "Ken Fleck"
Home Page: http://www.missionaryroad.com

I have attended Rockharbor Church for 7 years and would love to answer any questions or concerns people may have, especially after reading this blog. Please feel free to check out my blog with posts about rockharbor at http://www.missionaryroad.com

 

Ken 

Monday, 27 March 2017 - 7:17 AM PDT

Name: "wow"

while rockharbor has many problems im sure, i have attended for 15 years and can say it is very welcoming. this post is very misleading and i hope that you will visit and judge God's work in the church for yourself.

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